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This issue has been a problem for some time, the State of Tn has recently made the change to allow the title intern Architect,
We have been curious that many state laws only allow the use of "Architect" to be used only by a "registerd" individual, however the use of terms, Golf course Architect or Software Architect is used in most all states without enforcement, I've often wondered that if society had developed the terms Golf Course "Physisian" or Golf course "Attorney" or Soft ware Physician, that the liscensing boards of the Physicians and Attorneys would have enforced "with authority" the need to prohibit that use.

In the state of Ohio, we also can not use the term "architect" for anyone other than those licensed. It does put graduates in an awkward position, but more-so, the thousands of people who choose to never become licensed. I have worked with plenty of 40-year old "interns". Of course by that time, they have chosen or accepted better titles: Project Manager, Project Designer, Associate, etc, however, this still precludes them from identifying themselves with the architectural profession. Yes, I worked hard, and spent a great deal of money to acquire the "architect" title, but I totally agree that there should be a standard title nomenclature amongst our fellow colleagues. I think it is far more discerning that Mascara companies, and IT companies throw the title of "architect" around freely, than calling a 25 year old an "architectural intern". Whatever the decision, it should be standard and well accepted.

I agree that the term "Architect" needs better protection and should be reserved to professionals that have completed an accredited university program and have been licensed by a state. However, the real issue with the title for unregistered architects seems to be the term "intern", since it denotes someone who is still "trying out" the profession and does not have any credentials. The intern is the young guy or girl who shows up in the summer for a couple of weeks, does not really know too much yet, and does not have a professional degree in architecture.
After spending 5-6 years (or more) and a lot of money on getting that degree in architecture, our young colleagues deserve better than to be called interns.

"Use of the Title Architect and Its Derivatives: “The AIA supports protecting the public by reserving the use of the term “architect” and its derivative forms to those individuals licensed as architects. In addition, the AIA supports the use of “architectural intern” or “intern architect” for graduates of NAAB-accredited degree programs.”"Taken from "What's in a Name" published 09.12.2008 AIArchitect Volume 15, The News of America's Community of Architects.

Please consider the following:
1. Should Architect's and the Architectural community adopt an acronym similar to the engineering community i.e.:"EIT".
2. With so many legal restrictions by each state regarding the use of the title "Architect" and since AIA's membership is supported by non-registered Architects, should the organizational name be changed?
3. Can one continue to refer to such notables as Frank L. Wright as an Architect? never having a degree or registration?

As one of those people who has worked in architecture for 15 years, but am just now getting around to sitting for my exam, I am directly effected by this. My company name doesn't have architecture in it and my title is Project Director so when people ask where I work and what my title is they still have no clue as to what I do. Then when I look at job postings or other peoples business cards and see "Software Architect" or other versions of Architect it makes me mad that I can't be "Architectural Project Director" but they can use the title. I think the AIA needs to go after the other industries to get them to stop using the term architect and get it reserved for our profession! And I agree that being allowed to use intern architect or architectural in a job title for people who actually work in our field should be allowed.

The problem is really the term "intern", not whether it has some form of the word "architect" attached to it or not. As soon as you tell anyone outside the profession you're an intern, you immediately have to qualify it by explaining "no, not the kind of intern who makes copies and fetches coffee for a couple months in the summer" and then launch into an explanation of the whole IDP and licensure process. If the person is even still listening at all by the end of that explanation, their eyes are usually completely glazed over. To laymen, I usually just end up saying something to the effect of "I work for an architecture firm and am in the process of obtaining my Architect's license." I really don't see why the term "apprentice" was ever dropped. Sure, I understand interns are not apprentices in the strict sense of the term, but I feel the connotation the term "apprentice" among the general public is closer to what we are than is the connotation of the term "intern".

I worked for an office during college that called them "graduate architects", and those of us who were interns were interns. The firm I currently work for (post-grad job) calls us "architectural designers". I have never lived in a state that prohibits the use of a form of the term, as long as it is qualified. But, even in that, there is a problem as I see it. There is no standard. Depending on the firm you work for, you could be called something completely different. I wouldn't mind something standardized by NCARB or the AIA, just so that everyone is on the same page. My story thus far has been very similar to "westside". I can only imagine how much more difficult it becomes when you don't have a version of "architect" anywhere in your title.

I believe the internal argument among architects about who is entitled to the title "architect" is far less important than the usurpation of the title by the software industry. Go to any jobhunter website and enter "architect" and 98% of the results will be for some kind of systems analyst. Never mind that in some states this usage is illegal. It demonstrates that the profession of architecture is held in lower esteem than attorney or doctor. Or, it shows that the AIA is less vigilant in defending the profession than the AMA.I would love to see a software company taken to task for the use of "architect"

What are the (20) states that prohibit the use of the word "architect" if not licensed?
Why didn't the author of the article refer to them, but not bother to list them for our Reference?

Andrew Erd, AIA

The word architectural not being allowed is just absurd. It's a WORD... And in Delaware, we call kids right out of College Engineers even though they havent passed the PE or even taken it. They do have to take the IET, but they take that IN college, so I dont see the difference. Not being allowed to use a WORD just seems silly. It's not like your impersonating a police officer or a doctor

Oh...and the term architect isn't owned by the AIA!!! Again, it is a word that has many different meanings. Like Software Architect as stated above. You can call yourself whatever you want, just don't put it on paper. :-)

There have been many postings with this general drift, but I felt it important to reinforce it. We as a profession have long held our "interns" to an unfair standard. This is a group of the profession who works hard toward becoming a licensed professional and yet, they can't use the term "Architect" in their title. They are really a group without a title, because the title intern is so wide a title, that they could be doing anything. When I was an intern, it would often take me a couple of minutes to explain what I actually did, because I couldn't tell people I was an "Intern Architect" or "Architectural Intern". We as a profession hold the title Architect is such high regard and yet so many other groups have latched onto that term and change it for their needs because of it's prestige. Whether it is "Software Architect", "Digital Architect", "Golf Course Architect" or so many others, these people do not have an architectural degree or professional license and yet we give them less hastle than we give our interns. My opinion is that we need to free up our "Architects-in-training" to explain what they do without a 10 minute disertation and stop others from calling themselves Architects. I would never call myself a Software Programmer, so why should they be Software Architects?

The “name Nazis” have gotten seriously out of hand. A doctor can visit any of our 50 states and he is still a doctor. Same applies to attorneys, CPA’s, etc. But for Architects? Noooo. If we introduce ourselves (in a casual setting) in a state where we are not licensed, we apparently have nothing but evil, unethical intentions. We dare not hand out a business card with the title “Architect” (or any form of it) outside states where we are registered. One wonders why they don’t go after such abuses as “Naval Architect” or “Software Architect”.

All these policies do is confuse the public.

About a month ago, I happened to look in the job classifieds for the Sunday Chicago Tribune. There were only 2 listings for architects (a sign of our dismal economy). Upon close inspection, I realized that neither of these listings was for the kind of architects that design buildings! I happen to know that my state, Illinois, restricts the use of the title architect, yet an acquaintance that works for a software engineering company calls himself a "software architect"

The profession as a whole needs to come to terms with this. It has been suggested that the profession adopt a common term that can be abbreviated, such as "PA" for "Professional Architect" for those who are licensed to design buildings. A similar term for those who have graduated and are pursuing licensure could be adopted too - perhaps "AIT" for "Architect in Training".

I feel the AIA, as "voice of the profession", needs to do something about this. Does anyone know, if in fact, anything is being done to address this?

As a former chair of a young architects forum in my local AIA chapter and a YAF liaison for AIA National, I worked for over a decade to champion the causes, needs and voice of those who have graduated but are not licensed, "interns" as we know them. I am in favor of developing a term that would express your experience and contributions to the practice. They should never be overlooked or diminshed. However, in response to Eric, Architect is not just a word, it is an honor and a privilege that must be earned. It carries tremendous responsibility with it beyond our duties to our clients. We all know how hard it is to get here regardless of your opinion of the current structure in place. And yes, I am always bothered when other professions use it casually (software architect, etc.) However, I am extremely narrow in my opinion that allowing anyone to use the name "Architect" other than those who are licensed only cheapens the term for the rest of us. Using the name right out of school takes away the pinnacle of accomplishment for those who have worked for it. Our current culture needs to drop the attitude of entitlement and understand that real satisfaction only comes from accomplishments resulting from hard work. My opinion will not go over well with many out there, but architecture is a profession of patience. Do the work and the rewards eventually come. As for the "name", I don't have an answer, but I am cheering for you.

I think it is particularly dangerous in the residential architecture arena. There are many who are drafters, home designers, architecture school graduates who refer to themselves as Architects. The public is understandably ignorant to the difference. Most often they will have an independant engineer stamp their plans. I think the term Intern Architect for individuals with an architectural degree, is appropriate as it implies one is in the process of study, internship under the eye of a professional and passing a rigorous test.

Honestly, the whole issue is the result of the States co-opting the word or title "architect" for taxing purposes.

Probably what should be done is include a mark like the copyright "C" or Trade Mark "TM" after the word "architect" in the context of an individual professional to demonstrate that this individual has had the taxes extorted by the state to allow him/her to legally use the term when referring to himself/herself. All others are indeed "architects" although not recognized as such for not having paid the fee to use the word legally.

Texas plays the same game with retired and non-practicing but otherwise legally qualified professionals by demanding of them a commission of $600 a year for the honor of legally using the term even though the individual is no longer in the active practice of the profession.

Kids, go ahead and call yourself an architect. The use of the term has been so badly corrupted by the greedy politicians that is is now meaningless.

David

Sorry to correct you Laura. However as of this year the state of Ohio will allow a graduate with an accredited degree and on track to obtain his license (ie. IDP) can use the term "intern architect". But the use of the term is not highly as aggravating as doing a job search for architect on job boards and 95 percent of the hits are for software architects. I agree with the others, that the AIA or State Boards need to push to reserve the title architect for the construction community. Because I hate being asked "what kind of architect are you?" In my mind there is only one kind of architect.

As the IDP coordinator for my firm I have a great deal of sympathy for the plight of the unregistered professional. Especially the ones who have been denied that RA designation by the inability to get past that one remaining structures, or building planning Section of the ARE.

I would like to see it standardized, with some implication of accomplishment from having made it this far.

Intern Architect is what we call them and while it's better than EIT (engineer in training - which sounds like they have little wheels on their ankles), and while I feel we might be able to do better, maybe AG (Architectural Graduate, we should really go after those slobs who use such terms as "Architect of the Gulf War", or "Architect of the ENRON accounting fraud"

Don't know why we can't treat them like builders and unregistered house planners who use the term Architect, or Architectural in their ads and bring them before the State Board and give them a nice $10,000 fine for false representation and defamation of the profession.

Question. Can the term "architectural assistant" be used? If the role of an intern is to provide assistance to an architect perhaps the title should reflect the role. Please advise.

Thanks,

Chris

OK,

Here's my go at names:

Professional Architect, or PA: (There could be confusion with the Physician's Assistant designation in the medical world) PA (or PAr?) would designate those of us with (building) architect training and who have passed licensing & registration requirements. The Real AIA Architect.

Architect in Training or AIT: Those who have graduated from accredited architectural schools or their approved equivalents. I'd replace Intern Architect to avoid confusion and disrespect arising around the word Intern, which so often implies low/no pay work for those with little experience. "Graduate Architect' has too much room for ambiguity: Was Frank Lloyd Wright a Graduate Architect??

Architectural Designer: This would be an impure catch-all for those who aren't seeking licensure as architects, but have the schooling - and often many years of experience. It's true that this term would continue to be 'stolen' by all sorts of people. However, the use of Professional Architect should allow the AIA and state boards to clearly distinguish, and vigorously defend the legitimate professional credentials of licensed, registered building architects.

I think it would be helpful to hold fast to the word 'Architect' as the noun we've worked so hard for and legitimately 'own' - and let go of the broad scope adjective 'architectural'. In my opinion, a lot of confusion and argument could be sidestepped.

Our colleagues in the engineering professions seem to have a more pragmatic approach to The Name.

John Inman, PAr, AIA

The title "Intern Architect" would not lead the public to believe that person is a registered architect. Therefore, it is the appropriate title for those who have graduated from an accredited architectural school and are working to meet their requirements for eligibility to take their State Board Examination for registration. However, it would not be appropriate to use that title for a highschool student working during the summer or part time during the school year, or even a highschool graduate, who is working in an architectural office for the exposure and experience to determine whether or not he or she really wants to go on to architectural school and become an architect. That person is simply an "intern" and should not be referred to or presented as anything but "intern".

As an "intern" I am very passionate about this issue. I have gone to school 6 years to earn my Architectural Degree and when people ask, “What do you do for a living?, all I can say is, I am an "Intern". If the person isn't in the architectural field they assume I am a Medical Intern. If the person is a consultant I work with through my firm they assume I am still going to school and therefore not knowledgeable. The question, “What do you do for a living?” makes for a fifteen minute long conversation. It is very exhausting and a little hurtful knowing that the profession I dedicate long hours to will not allow for me to put the word “Intern” and “Architect” in the same sentence when I have an architectural degree, am a working intern, am a member of NCARB, and am an Associate AIA member. I feel that the profession turns its back on people in my circumstance. Like Daryl Bray said, it is not like an intern can sign and seal documents and we are not jeopardizing the public health, so what is the logic behind not being able to throw in the word "Architect" before or after the word “Intern”? As for the exact title, I don’t care, just let me throw in the word on what I got my degree on.

OOPS!...I would like to correct myself above. I meant to use the term "Architectural Intern", not "Intern Architect".

It's funny that a profession so keen on presentation does not understand the message it sends out to the public by presenting its workforce and young talent as "interns" or even "architectural interns" or any other above mentioned title. What client would like to have "interns" building their home or projects? Yet that is exactly what takes place. Luckily enough, most people still understand the role of an architect. The fact that licensing exams are required to attain such a title is of little interest to the general public. I believe architectural titles should be broken down to simply "licensed architect" or "registered architect" and "unlicensed architect". Let the work of the profession present itself.

Interns, as you say, cannot provide all services of a licensed architect. They cannot enter into contracts or sign drawings. Another thing interns can't do is put buildings together.

An architect is a professional person who not only has completed their extensive education but also followed a path of internship just to be eligible to take the exams. Then there are the exams which take extensive preparation to successfully complete. The title of architect is bestowed upon you only after you have cleared all of these hurdles and have learned from a licensed architect.

Intern is just fine, you want to be an architect, continue to work hard, take your exams in a timely fashion rather than waiting years and when all of that is done, you will see the value of the title architect. Until then, worry about learning your profession and don't waste time on worrying about your title.

It's plenty clear to a client who's the architect in the room and who's the intern, don't kid yourself.

Here's a thought - take the test....
To be truely effective with clients, consultants and other employees those who graduate need to be tested for their knowledge. Any one can buy a title.

I agree with Daryl Bray, it does not diminish the profession or the HSW of the public in the slightest to allow the word 'Architect' to come into the phrase for all the "Architects in Training" that are working their way to licensure.
Engineers who are striving to obtain their licensure are afforded the term "Engineer in Training" E.I.T., and it is arguable that some engineers have more HSW concerns than Architects.
Architect in Training, A.I.T. sounds good to me.

I believe people put to much stock in titles as it is. A title says nothing of one's performance or qualifications in any profession. When a layperson asks me what I do I simply say that I am an Architect even though I am currently unlicensed. If the conversation develops I'll explain the details if they seem interested. In a professional environment my title is Project Manager. In the industry everyone understands this completely. I agree with a previous post that a title such as AIT would work, but in the end, whats in a name?

The term AIT technically would be legal. The trick is, however, what to say if anyone asks what the "A" stands for. Some sort of term that can point people toward the profession definitely needs to be acceptable to all parties. What other term other than some form of "Architect" would distinguish our interns from that of the interns in the White House or in the medical profession for instance? Who do I say that I am? Even the term "Designer" has become questionable in the state of Oklahoma due to the recent changes to the title act.

Daryl - thank you for bringing this to the forefront of discussion. I would like the profession to consider a different title for interns. The use for this title in every other profession is reserved for students. It is certainly a source of confusion, for clients and the like, to understand our full capabilities.

According to Mirriam-Webster dictionary online - Intern = an advanced student or graduate usually in a professional field (as medicine or teaching) gaining supervised practical experience (as in a hospital or classroom)

As a recent registrant, I have to say that the title "architect" should indeed be strictly limited to those who are licensed architects. This should be standardized nationally to remove any questions. Many states struggle with protecting the title "architect" from non-registrants, particularly those who either have no intention of ever getting licensed or are already licensed in other professions and believe their license qualifies them to practice architecture. Keeping it simple and clear is the most responsible approach. The word "architect" is a title that describes a licensed professional who has demonstrated proficiency, and is therefore worthy of being entrusted with the public's health, safety and welfare. Interns should not be allowed to use the word in any form until they demonstrate proficiency by passing the ARE and getting licensed. Until then, an intern is simply that, an intern.

As Executive Director of the Ohio Architects Board, I feel that it is necessary to provide an update on the use of the titles "Intern Architect" and "Architectural Intern" in the state of Ohio. Senate Bill 225, which went into effect on June 20, 2008 now ALLOWS the use of these two titles by interns who are registered by the Board to do so. Any of derivative of the title "Architect" by an unlicensed person is still prohibited. The law was changed in order to reduce the mis-use of the title by architectural firms in job titles, as well as in response to concerns brought to the Board by Associate members of the AIA and others. For a copy of the new statute and the related rules, please visit the Board's website at www.arc.ohio.gov/laws.stm

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